BitOnkel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

believe in what you want! you cannot argue in a logical way with a religious guy because if he would argue logically he would know that he is wrong :)i mean.. you KNOW NOTHING... you just propose... those things are senceless in my eyes..."give me your money or you will go to hell" ©church

jebaird81 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

God has never made me suffer and cry. He has tested my faith. James 1:2-4, "Consider ir pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything."

BitOnkel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

these laws once have been made by the people (like your constitution was made by patriots) if you despise something you will be punished to do it better after your punishement (ok there´s the death penalty) but god makes you suffer and crie untill the end of time and you have no chance to get out of this.do you know the book " 1984" they are willing servants,too :)

BitOnkel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

yes horus´s father was osiris, another god , like jesus daddy was another god. but isis is shown as virgin -> he was born by a virgin :)horus was crucified! , he went also over water, he was baptized with 30 and his baptist got beheaded, he was born in a cave and a star in the east showed this place, 3 kings/gods gave him presents, there were also herdsmen... a bad guy called herut wanted to kill jesus when he was a baby....;-)

wizzerd229 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

He is visible (Jesus) in that he can be felt; he is only invisible in that you can't see him

jebaird81 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

We actually don't know when Jesus was born, but it was probably in early Spring. We just celebrate it on Dec. 25 because other celebrations were going on at the same time and we could celebrate without being persecuted. And horus was the son of Isis and Osiris; two egyptian gods. he had nothing to do with a virgin and was not crucified. learn what you are talking about.

jebaird81 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Religion is not slavery; we are willing servants of God. We follow what He says because we want to. Slaves recieve no compensation for their work. We get rewarded with eternal life. The only thing you can become a slave of is sin. it traps you and the only way to escape is by the grace of God. Also by following that logic you could say that following the law is slavery. You have to do what your government tells you or you will go to jail.

Zerozx11645 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

You have your opinion; I have mine. Neither can be "proven" by using science because science cannot use the scientific method to "study" anything outside of this material world. God, [what I believe] is immaterial and not of this world; thus meaning that it cannot be proven to satisfy you with "evidence" since that is what most nonbelievers look for. I, myself, put my *faith* in the Bible. I respect what you believe. Have a nice day. :)

BitOnkel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

prophecies have been fulfilled? yeah of course ;-) i mean of what else did the dinos die..just because of the flood... come onand IF zeitgeist has been debunked religion itself is still a silly thing in my eyes :) religion means slaverey because you have to do what your god tells you to or you will go to hell for the end of time..thats not my opinion of freedom ;-)

Zerozx11645 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Zeitgeist has been debunked. The Bible is the only doctrine where prophecies have [and still are] been fulfilled.