randomusernamemygod (October 11, 2008 at 7:59 pm)

Were does he say that? No where the fact he goes into great lengths about the militry industrial complex something he defined.

dussuh (October 9, 2008 at 8:43 pm)

Hes not talking about coupes or militairy regimes. Hes talking about the costs it takes to the american tax payer too keep the militairy industry alive. We pay tax money so they can build bombs and they use wars get more budgets.

stevenson52 (October 7, 2008 at 8:09 am)

Can someone, please, upload the entire speech?

randomusernamemygod (October 4, 2008 at 10:17 pm)

"If you mean lobbyists pressing for military spending" What? just watch this video again then fully research what he refers to the Military Industrial Complex. Eisenhower being anti-military made Nuclear weaponary a priority to the military, would give military support to any middle east country, which he did and wanted to aid the French in Vietnam with military support or any country threatened by Communism.

randomusernamemygod (October 4, 2008 at 10:12 pm)

Wrong. His concern is not about over spending or under spending but the power of the military being mis-used and influenced wrongly. The military industrial complex is a proft entity the facr it doesnt exist without the commercial sector and can be driven by individual interests.It took the US many years to get ahead of the Soviets in guidence and payload. The Russians had created the very first ICBM's. Eisenhower in fact supported the projects to create rivals to the soviers.

atowersshaw (October 4, 2008 at 8:15 pm)

Further, Ike knew all this space program nonsense was just that after Sputnik. There is a reason there was no real "Crisis" even the Suez he handled very deftly.If you mean lobbyists pressing for military spending, then yes he was warning about that, but the original point I was responding to, was the claim Ike was somehow anti-military and a "dove", he was adamant about defecits The Ambrose biography is a good place to start, and then some of his own writings give a fuller picture

atowersshaw (October 4, 2008 at 8:01 pm)

The Military Industiral complex is not "a for profit" entity. The warning was, and is, the exact opposite, there is no profit, just a sinkhole for taxpayers. He's talking about not going into deficit spending because people are saying the sky is falling.The Soviets had superior rocketry in terms of power, but things like guidance, payload capability, they were years behind, and the Russians still are.

randomusernamemygod (October 4, 2008 at 5:30 pm)

"If you can actually cite anywhere Ike talks about "for profit military" I will defer to you" The fact he is talking about the Military-Industrial-Complex is a the biggest give away if you know what it is.Soviet Union was far ahead on missle technology, Eisenhower pressed to close the gap actually.

atowersshaw (October 4, 2008 at 5:15 pm)

I'm afraid you don't understand. If you can actually cite anywhere Ike talks about "for profit military" I will defer to you. Anybody who has read about Eisenhower and his presidency to any degree knows the speech was geared towards what tactics Kennedy had used in the '60 campaign. JFK had been saying there wasn;t enough money being spent on the military, Eisenhower had been asleep at the switch, there was a "Missle Gap". This was part of the repudiation of typical Kennedy crap.

randomusernamemygod (October 4, 2008 at 12:14 pm)

atowersshaw everything this man has written and said has gone right over your head. He is warning about the dangers or using the military as an economy and for profit.